Friday, December 23, 2011

Individual Passenger Experiences - Firsthand Accounts

Comments made under this post feature the personal accounts of many of the passengers on UA/CO132. Readers can get a sense of what went wrong on this flight and how an initially pretty standard situation (i.e. a maintenance issue) was completely mismanaged at the passengers' expense.

United could have treated its customers with dignity and courtesy and this group of seasoned and frequent flyers would have accepted the simple delay. All passengers were very patient until things went from bad to worse in terms of United staff's behavior and management of the situation on the second day of the ordeal.

One of the big and equally unnecessary problems was that passengers were afforded only 3 hours or less of sleep while the cabin crew received the available information and was able to sleep much longer. Customers on this flight included small children, pregnant women, and passengers in their eighties. No efforts were made to accommodate more vulnerable passengers.

The handling of this flight and the treatment of customers demonstrate that the integration between United and Continental faces major technical and organizational obstacles and produces disastrous consequences, especially for customers, about 1.5 years after the merger.

In any case, United's policy is apparently to simply ignore requests by passengers to be made whole for expenses and harm directly caused by its merger-related and other operational problems, by its operational decisions, and its employee's behavior.

46 comments:

  1. Our flight from hell finally ended after 36 hrs door-to-door. Flying from LA to Dulles, we arrived in time for the 10pm flight. The Continental merger just exacerbated the problem. It was clear after the 90 minute delay at 11:30 p.m. they knew all along we weren't going anywhere. The only crew member at the gate was the captain! Once they decided to give us hotel vouchers at midnight we had to stand in a line of 100 people to receive them. They told us a shuttle would take us to the hotel, which we presumed was near Dulles. Wrong! Once we got to the shuttle line (hotel shuttles traditionally hold 20 people) we decided to pay for a taxi to get ahead of the 100 people waiting for the shuttle at 1 a.m. $35 later, because the hotel was actually 15 miles away in Leesburg, we were in our last line of the day. Got to sleep at 1;45 in our clothes because airline kept our luggage. We were told the flight would leave at nine a.m. which meant up at 5:15 for 6 a.m. Shuttle. Got to gate at 7 a.m. Flight delayed again for maintenance and crew because they were told departure was at 11 a.m instead of 9!!!!! They finally arrived at 10 a.m. and we boarded. I commented to the stewardess while waiting for my seat that "I wouldn't want to be you today" and she replied " yes and we only got two hours of sleep from 6-8". This meant that they were ARRIVING at our hotel when we were leaving for the airport having come from Newark overnight ( thus confirming we never had a crew for the original flight).

    At 11:30 a.m. in our seats (remember flight was at 10 a.m) we are told two people didn't show up so, although their luggage wasn't onboard (the "good news") the merger made it difficult to get their names off the computer system!! At this point, the passengers had had enough. Finally at 12:45 p.m we were on our way to Paris.

    We arrived Paris to an empty airport and 1:30 a.m. Our apartment car/driver was not there because of the late arrival and we thus had to pay 60 EURO for our taxi into town. Also, because of the late arrival, the gentleman who was to meet us at our rented apartment was not there. We had to call him, wait for his arrival to let us in, by now 3:30 a.m.

    The passengers were remarkably well-mannered despite the delays and treatment from United/Continental. The gate personnel claimed they knew very little about the situation because of the merger. They indicated they couldn't access each others' computer systems, the plane was marked UNITED but the entertainment system indicated "Welcome to Continental". This entire episode was the worst of our travels and we respectfully request that UNITED/CONTINENTAL show their concern for their customers by adequately compensating us for loosing one entire day of our vacation. There were many children on the flight whose parents certainly experienced far more stress than those of us travelling with older children

    The Matthews Family
    Los Angeles, CA

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  2. 14h30 de retard ... sur 6 jours de vacances en France et un billet d'avion à un prix exhorbitant ! .. cela fait effectivement beaucoup !

    Le manque de communication et d'information, la mauvaise coordination de continental - united, la confusion des informations données aux uns et aux autres, les dépenses personnelles additionnelles etc ... sont autant de justificatifs pour réclamer un remboursement.

    Je rejoins le groupe et le détail donné, de l'ensemble de ce vol sans fin. Je ne penses pas avoir à rajouter d'autres détails, hors le fait que dans l'attente de certains coupons repas, d'autres passagers comme moi, ont également fait des achats (eau, sandwiches etc).

    Outre le retard énorme, c'est surtout le peu d'intérêt de la compagnie pour les passagers qui m'a choqué.

    Cordialement

    Marie-Sophie

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  3. Having travelled extensively for over 20 years, mechanical problems and delays for various reasons are to be expected as a normal part of travel. However, never in my experience have we, as passengers, been treated with such disrespect by any airline. United/Continental was cursing their bad luck – good weather meant that they could not throw the blame on the weather – instead they decided to throw the blame back and forth on each other. We had gate personnel blaming the entire fiasco on Continental airlines then we had other personnel saying that United was taking full responsibility. Either way, I believe none of this would have such a major problem if there had only been not only adequate communication from the airline but ANY communication at all.

    Rather than inform passengers of the long delay as soon as they knew about it, the United/Continental personnel chose instead to have a “solution” to the problem as soon as the problem was announced – unfortunately, the solution was no solution at all. By the time the passengers realized we would need to get more food and drinks all the airport restaurants were long closed. The entire passenger population had to stand in line to get our hotel and food vouchers, and when my husband inquired about a car-seat for our infant son (to get to the hotel) we were basically laughed at and told to check at baggage claim. Of course when we got to baggage claim there was no one to help us. After waiting outside for 20 minutes for the shuttle to the hotel we finally decided to take a taxi – with no car-seat for our son and the hotel nowhere close to the airport.

    At the hotel, another line, but we were lucky as the 20 minute wait for us was shorter than for those who arrived on the shuttle. When we finally got to our room at 0145, we realized that we were in a hotel that did not have 24 hour food service – so at the time the airline was issuing us the vouchers in the airport the kitchen at the hotel was already closing up. We also needed to ensure that we did not miss the flight the next morning, so we had to plan to take a taxi at 0600 – and what a surprise, but the kitchen did not open until 0600. So the vouchers the airline gave us were virtually useless, and without them being used, the airline of course did not have to pay for them – good deal for the airline but not for us. By the time we showered, went to bed, and woke up to get back to the airport we had a total of 3 hours sleep.

    Tired and hungry, we returned to the airport, again with no car-seat for our son. Upon return to the airport we paid for our own breakfast, and returned once again to our gate for an 0945 departure. Surely nothing else could go wrong, except now the crew was not there. So another delay. When we finally boarded the airplane, United/Continental did their usual preboarding for the first-class and premier passengers, but decided not to preboard for those of us with small children so as not to anger the other passengers. Unbelievable. Additionally they were not using a boarding pass scanner but instead were writing down our seats as we boarded. Finally on the plane with everyone seated and a crew to run the flight, we have yet another delay for “2 lost passengers” – shockingly United/Continental did not even know who they were missing.

    Throughout this entire trip, communication from United/Continental was minimal, contradictory, rude, and in many cases outright false. We were treated like children rather than competent adults, like the enemy rather than paying customers who just want to get to Paris. Had the airline been honest with us from the beginning, we could have chosen to pay for our own hotel rooms, slept an adequate number of hours and eaten a decent dinner, and United/Continental would not have a plane full of passengers who, if they are anything like us, will never pay to fly on their airline again.

    Rabin Family

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  4. This letter is in reference to United Flight 902 Denver 12/21/11 and Continental Flight 132 to Paris (CDA) on 12/21/11.
    The chaos, confusion, disrespect, and unprofessionalism began in Denver. My flight included a 19 hour delay, a re-booking, a cancelled and reschedule flight, and missing precious and limited time with my deployed husband who was given 6 days off to spend with me.

    This trip was a very special trip to me. My husband is in active duty Airforce 1st Lieutenant who has been deployed for months. He was authorized just 6 days off in the middle of this deployment to travel. We booked our flight to Paris months ago and chose to trust United/Continental with this very special and important trip. However, after my experiences over the past 2 days I cannot say that I would trust United/Continental again. My flight has now been delayed 19 hours, which was precious, irreplaceable time to my husband and me.

    As mentioned before, the trouble began in Denver with 2 significant issues: Mechanical Issue & Disgruntled passenger.

    These two situations caused the flight to arrive 1 hour and 10 minutes late. I literally ran to the opposite end of the terminal to arrive at my departing gate, C5, for Paris at 5:10pm, the exact time of departure. There was no one at the gate to assist and my flight had obviously left. I ran back to customer service for United at C20. I was not alone in missing my flight, I would guess from the line, that half of the Denver passengers missed their connecting flight. I spent a good deal of time in line only to get to the front and be told that they could not help me because I was on a Continental flight to Paris. The Representative could only tell me I’d been rebooked and sent me back to C5.

    Upon arrival at C5, I again explained the situation and was left waiting while the representative busied herself with other tasks. She did not apologize for the confusion, she did not quickly try to help me, and would not give me any further information on my re-booked flight. Eventually she gave me a new ticket and dismissed me because she had other “issues” to attend to.

    I was re-booked onto Continental/United Flight 132 departing at 10pm from gate C5. Shortly after receiving my ticket the flight was delayed until 11:30pm. I again spoke with a representative at C5, a Continental employee, asking if there were any other flights I could be placed on. He said he could not help me, but I would have to go back to Customer Service at C20. I retuned to C20 to wait for over an hour to speak with a Customer Service Representative. At one point there were only 2 representatives and an endless line extending beyond the designated area.

    Once I got to the Customer Service Desk, I was passed to an alternative representative because the first one could not access the Continental database to check on my flight and other flights. The new CS Representative spent 15 minutes on the phone trying to get into the flight information, she continually said it was a Continental issue, and no one was able to log in.

    At D15, I encountered confusion, frustration, and anger as the the gate representative spent endless time making calls trying to get into the Continental database. We were told they had to re-check everyone in, so again I stood in line to be re-checked in. However, this did not solve the issue. The gate attendants could still not get into the system. Over the course of the next 5 hours I heard nothing but confusion and panic. One gate attendant would tell us the delay was due to mechanics and another would say the flight crew was missing. There were at least a dozen attendants working the situation and no one was giving clear answers. Their updates were spotty at best and were rude and abrupt.

    continued

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  5. Finally we were told at 11:30pm that the mechanics would give us an update at 11:45pm and that a crew member was flying in from Newark at at 11:53pm. After this time, we would depart if the plane was fixed. However, at midnight our flight was abruptly cancelled and rebooked for the next morning at 9:15am. The passengers with email were notified before the gate attendants about this change.

    What followed was a disorganized mess of vouchers, explanations on when to come back, and where to pick up a shuttle for a hotel that was 10 minutes away. We were told we could not take our check baggage and would need to arrive early enough to recheck in and go through security.

    I was fortunate to get on the first shuttle to the hotel, which held approximately 15 people. The entire flight is roughly 240 people. I was shuttled to a hotel that was not 10 minutes away but was 30 minutes away. I heard that many of my fellow passengers were not able to get to the hotel until 2:30am because of the shuttle situation. I slept for just 2.5 hours as I had to rework travel plans and contact my husband who had already arrived in Paris. I received a call at 4:30am from Continental saying my flight had been changed again. However, the flight information I received was incorrect. In my groggy state I called Continental back and discovered my flight had been delayed to 9:45am.

    I left the hotel at 6am and arrived back at the airport. At 8am we received word from the new gate attendants at D15 that our flight was fixed and they were needing to print out a large quantity of paperwork for the flight crew. They asked us to not ask questions until this was done. However, the next 2 hours were spent trying to get onto the Continental system. It was the same scenario as the night before. They could not access the Continental site. After an extensive elapse of time and a flurry of calls they were able to get far enough into the system to start answering our questions.

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  6. At 9am we were told to return and we would begin boarding. At 9am the gate attendants realized they did not have a crew for the flight. There was another flurry of calls trying to locate our crew. We were told they were missing. Finally at 9:30am we were told that the pilots were located downstairs in the lounge and the flight attendants were still at the hotel and would be leaving at 10am for the airport. The flight attendants were mis-informed on the departure time and believed it was 11am.

    The main pilot finally arrived and apologize for the situation and mass confusion. He explained that the plane had just been fully fixed in the last few minutes, which is in contrast to being told the plane was fully functional at 8am. He said he hoped we’d be off the ground at 11am.

    The flight attendants did not arrive until 10:30am and we were told we would begin boarding soon. Upon their arrival we began boarding around 11am. However, because the system was still down they had to check us in manually which only pushed our departure time back.

    We were all on the plane at 11:45am. Then we heard from the cock pit that 2 passengers were missing from the flight and we could not take off until they were taken off the roster. However, United Personnel could still not access the Continental system. We were told we could not leave until they were removed from the roster. We waited an additional 45 minutes to leave.

    Our plane arrived at 1:23am on Friday, December 23rd, I originally was suppose to arrive at 6:35am on Thursday, December 22nd. I had not only been delayed for 19 hours now but lost 19 hours with my husband. I was then forced to take an extremely expensive taxi to our hotel.

    Based on my experiences I feel that reasonable compensation would be a full refund of my ticket plus the cost of my long distance phone calls. You reputation among all the passengers is at stake and I am aware of a blog and Facebook page dedicated to flight United/Continental flight 132. This story will spread and I and the other passengers are hoping that we can report that in the end United/Continental worked to resolved and compensate each passenger for the turmoil each one experienced.

    Thank you for taking the time to read through this letter. I will be expecting a reply and will be in contact if I do not hear a reply.

    Thank you again.
    
Rachel Davis

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  7. The timeline has been accurately documented by many others. I will only reiterate a few items:

    - My wife, 20 month old daughter and I arrived at Dulles from San Francisco at roughly 8:00 pm eastern standard time. Once off the plane we saw departure boards for the flight reading "operations delay" "departure 11:30pm". So United/Continental or whoever was running the flight was fully aware of the problem early in the evening.

    - No information was provided to us by the gate agents via intercom system as to the nature of the delay. Having had a father who worked in the airline business for 30 years, I knew that "operations delay" on the departure board ALWAYS meant something is wrong with the plane. However, this was never fully disclosed to the passengers via intercom. Our suspicions were confirmed (albeit late into the evening) by others who were more diligent about speaking with the gate agents.

    - It was simply not possible for my wife and I to keep an eye on our child and also initiate conversations with the gate agents whenever a new piece of information might have become available. (Neither is it in my or my wife's nature to challenge gate agents with questions.) I expect to be informed without having to approach the agents. In my opinion this is the single biggest issue with this flight: gate agents did not properly exercise their responsibility to keep their passengers informed. They performed extremely poorly in this regard and should undergo some refresher training.

    - To compound their poor performance, the gate agents seemed to blame every single problem on the "merger". (Please note I heard this complaint second hand from others the evening of the 21st but heard it first hand myself during the delay on the morning of the 22nd). The agent's constantly cited the difficulty of communication between United/Continental computers, United/Continental ground crew, or United/Continental mechanical crew. In my opinion, this was the second biggest issue for this flight: the gate agent's forgot that they are the ultimate representative of the airline at that moment in time -- no matter what the circumstance. By passing the blame onto the "merger" they simply exacerbated the problem. (I would note however that the gentleman who manned the gate the following day for the re-scheduled flight was exceptional and continued to tell the other gate crew to "keep the passengers informed, keep them informed." I commend him but he was telling them this while we were finally boarding the plane 18 hours after it was originally supposed to depart.)

    - Finally, I reiterate what some others have already suggested...that the gate crew and certainly the mechanical crew, knew fully well that the plane was not going to go anywhere the night of the 21st. In light of that, the gate crew should have immediately asked for hotel vouchers and put us into a hotel room at a respectful time. Considering the number of parent's with children (particularly infants and toddlers), it was absolutely shameful to send us like cattle out to a hotel to get at best 4 hours of sleep or as little as 1.5 hours before we HAD to be at the airport. That was absolutely moronic. It shows that United nor Continental give a damn about the comfort of passengers in such situations. It shows that they simply treat passengers like cattle to be moved from point A to point B without the slightest bit of concern for comfort.

    Safe and enjoyable travel to you all as you return from your holidays!

    Jeff Abell, Julie Andre & Eleanor

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  8. Blaise Collin - Part 1
    We all know what happened during that horrible trip from Dulles to CDG. My own story begins a bit earlier in Denver when my flight to Dulles (UA-902) was delayed because of a mechanical problem and then because a passenger decided to leave the plane after arguing with a crew member over not following the safety presentation because she went to the restrooms (we had been sitting in the plane for over 30 minutes waiting for the mechanical problem to be solved when she decided to go to the restrooms). If the combination of mechanical problem and passenger issue rings a bell, please raise your hand... So, the flight landed at 5 pm in Dulles and it was about one hour late. I rushed to the gate to catch my 5:10 pm flight to CDG (United flight operated by Continental) but I arrived at 5:08 pm and the flight was gone. Note that the crew knew I was in the Denver flight and it probably took them 2 minutes to remove me from the passenger list. It seems as if the United and Continental systems worked just fine at that time to leave me at Dulles wondering why they couldn't wait for late passengers 5 or 10 more minutes. We all know the plane can make it faster to CDG than initially planned but obviously United had decided it was not worth waiting 5 more minutes. So, I was kindly rebooked to the 10 pm flight which already pissed me off because I had an appointment at the US Embassy in Paris at 11 am to renew my working visa and that flight would only land at CDG at 11:25 am (so we all wished). For those of you who already had to deal with the US Embassy in Paris I was not really confident I would ever make it to get another appointment. Needless to say that my visa had expired (hence the renewal) and that I could not go back to the USA if I didn't have it renewed. I found myself wondering how I could avoid being homeless in my own country and get a visa to return to my home and work in the USA. I had no other choice anyway than to wait for the 10 pm flight. At least I could still make it to a diner with friends I had not seen in a year and that I probably would not see before another one. Again, so I thought... The whole joke that followed with the flight being cancelled, the missing crew the following morning, the two passengers that could not be taken out of the list, etc. is well known and described by other contributors. (to be continued)

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  9. Blaise Collin - Part 2
    What might be less well known is that the Continental crew in Paris refused to pay for hotel for the stranded passengers. They argued they had not received any instructions from their US colleagues and that they could not accommodate me (and 5 other passengers) at the Hilton. They managed to find rooms for passengers who directly went to the Hilton but they told us they could not get us any rooms. I therefore spent the night in the terminal at the airport waiting for the morning to reach Paris and start my day. To add to the fun, I initially booked my flight to CDG late October and I changed it early November after I got this appointment at the US Embassy. I was charged changing fees and I took an extra day-off so I could make it to my appointment. So, in addition to being 19 hours late on a 16-hour trip I payed extra money and wasted a day of PL for basically nothing. Below is what United answered to my request for compensation. Needless to say that this is a pure joke to me and I am determined to get a full reimbursement of the airfare and to kindly refuse their compensation offer. I think this whole trip has been poorly handled by the United/Continental crew and that passengers should not have to suffer from the consequences of a poorly managed merge between the two companies. Apologizing and offering peanuts will simply not do it. The companies have to take full responsibility for what happened and compensate the passengers accordingly.

    Best wishes to all of you,
    Blaise Collin

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    Dear Dr. Collin,

    Thank you for contacting us. On behalf of United Airlines, please
    accept my apologies for the inconvenience you experienced with Flight
    902.



    We were made aware of the circumstances prompting our lengthy delay of
    your flight from Denver to Washington on December 21st causing a
    mis-connect with your flight from Washington to Paris due to a
    mechanical issue. Regardless of the reason, I understand how frustrating
    and upsetting it can be to have your travel plans suddenly altered. I
    know that in choosing air travel you do so with time constraints in
    mind, and I am truly sorry if we did not provide the level of service
    that you expect or deserve from United. Thank you for your patience and
    cooperation as we made preparations to get you safely on your way.



    While we cannot replace the time lost while waiting nor can we reimburse
    you for your change fee, we would like to offer you this electronic
    travel certificate as a means of expressing my appreciation for your
    patience. We hope you will give United another opportunity to serve your
    travel needs in the near future.

    Regards,

    Jay Ferna
    United Airlines Customer Care

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  10. Time line as I remember it :
    I landed from San Francisco at 9pm and saw on the departure board that the flight was 1h30 delayed due to « Operation » and supposed to take off at 11.30 pm
    At about 10 pm a crew member announced that the plane had to be changed (I heard something about having sold prenium seats that were actually not offered in the plane) and that we all had to get a new boarding pass.
    At about 11pm there has been an announcement about the pilot still being on his way to New-York.
    A woman said that Continental had refused providing us with food or drinks.
    At about 11.30 pm, a crew member announced that they found a leak and had to fix it, and that the plane would take off at 9.15 am now.
    When we got to the airport the next day, the flight was not on the departure board so we asked someone from United to make sure about the gate.
    I was in from of the gate at 7.25 am
    I cannot remember when the pilot arrived but he said they could replace the broken piece this morning.
    They then announced that they  « have lost the crew members and are trying to locate them ».
    After about 20 minutes they could find them, say they would be there at about 10am and changed the taking off hour to 11.15.
    When they arrived they had to do « paper work » before we could board. Boarding started at about 10.45.
    We were all in the plane at about 11.15, I fell asleep untill 12.30 and when I woke up I saw we were still on the ground and that the pilot was talking to passengers. They had problems with 2 names of people who had not showed up on the list. I heard that United and Continental's computer system cannot talk to each other which took them a while to figure out who to cancel the 2 passengers' names. We took off at 12.40 and landed at 1.34am.


    What went wrong personally for me before takinf off :
    - The lines : We standed in line for more than 30 minutes to get new boarding passes + 30 min to get a hotel voucher + 20 minutes in the bus because we could not all sit + more than 1 hour at the hotel to get a room.
    - The sleep : Time to get to the hotel and checking-in, I went to bed at 3 am and got no more than 2 hours of sleep.
    - The food : I had no more than a sandwich all day (wednesday) since everything was closed at the hotel and took no more than 5 minutes to get a breakfast the day after.


    What went wrong personally for me after landing :
    When you leave in France, being in Paris DOES NOT MEAN being back home : I originally had to take a train at 1.35 pm on Thursday (which I had to cancel at my own expense) to get back home 136 miles away from Paris.
    When we landed, the pilot said that « United representatives » would help us to get an hotel room if you had one more flight or cabs back home. But no one was there. A guy from Charles De Gaulle told me that there was no way someone from United could be there at 2am !
    It seems that people from United are not aware that, first, everybody in France does not live in Paris and second, people here travel by train through the country, not by plane. No one took this third option into account.
    I went to the terminal 2 to the SNCF station to buy a train ticket. The earliest one was at 8.07 am and it was only 3am. There was no one in the station but about 20 homeless guys (drunk and yelling at me, I am a 24 year-old girl) so I decided to take my chance and going to the hotel the had directed to people who were supposed to flight from Paris later that day.
    About 10 people were in the lobby and United had not informed the hotel of our arrival. A girl was trying to get a woman from United to understand that we had no place to stay (or at least we did, but yesterday, 15 hours ago!). I got in the bedroom at 4am and got 1 hour of sleep before having to leave to catch my train.

    I was at my last stop at 9 am on Friday when the original time was 14.30 on Thursday !

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  11. I lost one day and paid 110 dollars for the cab and Hotel room in Roissy. The "compensation" of 75 dollars on a flight united airlines is therefore ridiculous. The cause of the delay was an organisational problem, which can be understandable given that two companies were running this flight, but I don't understand why the customers have to pay for that. United should take its responsabilities and pay back the whole price of the ticket. I have ever been in such a situation a few years ago, with another company, for a flight from Paris to Lima. We arrived one day later and, at the airport of Lima, all the passengers were repayed the whole ticket in cash! That is what I call a company that takes care of its customers. I hope United will repay us as well.

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  12. To whom this may concern,

    I was one of the unfortunate passengers on "Flight From Hell" UA 132.

    I don't have anything to add in terms of details to what my fellow passengers have already written with much eloquence.

    I travel a lot for business and never have I encountered such unprofessionalism.

    It is no wonder why US airlines are going down the tubes one after the other. Instead of investing in good service, new planes and frequent flyer programs that are worthwhile, US legacy airlines seem to think that passengers can just be bullied into horrible service, planes that breakdown and frequent flyer programs where saver award black-out dates are more frequent than available dates.

    Compared to any European and Asian airline, we are now treated like cattle. US airlines in general, and United in particular, seem to think that the solution to their decadence is to nickel-and-dime passengers while taking away perks that used to be free, provide less-than-subpar service and laugh in your face when you dare say something.

    The culture of finger-pointing and passing the blame is now so pervasive that one cannot even identify a responsible party. The lack of responsibility and initiative is so flagrant that the staff would rather make you wait for hours without food and drink than make a decision which could potentially get them in trouble.

    This is worse than taking the Greyhound bus.

    I have been a faithful United customer for 15 years. I am now tearing up my Mileage Plus frequent flyer card.

    Never again.

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  13. Because of the delays, I missed my boyfriend's birthday. This trip was planned for over two months. In addition, when we finally arrived to Paris, an employee told me to go to the Hilton Hotel in front of the airport and that I would just have to show my passport and that a room would be there for me. I was glad to see the flight company was helping me. But I was wrong. When I finally got there, we were around 10 people in the lobby, and there were no room for any of us. I had to wait there for one hour before I could finally have a room. By the time I got my room and took a shower, I had to time to sleep cause I needed to return to the airport to catch my flight (because Paris was not my final destination; Oslo was my final stop). I arrived on the next day, cause there were no night flights from Paris to Oslo, and I missed my boyfriend's birthday.
    The worst was that, according to the information we received from the staff, all of this happened because of a bad organization from the airline company (the crew was not even in Washington DC, they were still at their hotel).

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  14. Continental/United staff seemed to know very early on on the evening of December 21st, that flight 132 would not be departing as scheduled. They purposely left passengers in the dark about what was going on, providing a series of ever-changing, ridiculous excuses for the delays throughout the ordeal. Even as early as 7pm, when I checked in at Dulles, the United rep said they wouldn't be able to check us in for an hour or two because the system was "under control" of someone else, whatever that means. She suggested we "walk around" for an hour until it was time to check in. About 3 minutes later, she says"nevermind, we're able to check you in now". I am convinced the staff knew very early on there would be delays, but didn't bother to tell customers.

    The United/Continental staff do not seem to know for which company they work. The United staff at the gate repeatedly blamed the delays on Continental, stating several times that the merge between the two has been a "complete disaster". Even on our flight back to DC the cabin crew kept saying things like "on behalf on Continental-- I mean United". It is truly confounding that the two companies' systems can't "talk to each other", as this seems essential for such a merger. Customer service has clearly fallen by the wayside during this process.

    I have never had such a miserable traveling experience. Many passengers' holiday vacations were ruined because of this ordeal. I am seriously considering never flying United/Continental again and advising friends and family to do the same. I think it's only fair for passengers to be refunded for the price of the ticket as well as other travel expenses incurred due to the excessive delays.

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  15. Our flight from hell finally ended after 36 hrs door-to-door. Flying from LA to Dulles, we arrived in time for the 10pm flight. The Continental merger just exacerbated the problem. It was clear after the 90 minute delay at 11:30 p.m. they knew all along we weren't going anywhere. The only crew member at the gate was the captain! Once they decided to give us hotel vouchers at midnight we had to stand in a line of 100 people to receive them. They told us a shuttle would take us to the hotel, which we presumed was near Dulles. Wrong! Once we got to the shuttle line (hotel shuttles traditionally hold 20 people) we decided to pay for a taxi to get ahead of the 100 people waiting for the shuttle at 1 a.m. $35 later, because the hotel was actually 15 miles away in Leesburg, we were in our last line of the day. Got to sleep at 1;45 in our clothes because airline kept our luggage. We were told the flight would leave at nine a.m. which meant up at 5:15 for 6 a.m. Shuttle. Got to gate at 7 a.m. Flight delayed again for maintenance and crew because they were told departure was at 11 a.m instead of 9!!!!! They finally arrived at 10 a.m. and we boarded. I commented to the stewardess while waiting for my seat that "I wouldn't want to be you today" and she replied " yes and we only got two hours of sleep from 6-8". This meant that they were ARRIVING at our hotel when we were leaving for the airport having come from Newark overnight ( thus confirming we never had a crew for the original flight).

    At 11:30 a.m. in our seats (remember flight was at 10 a.m) we are told two people didn't show up so, although their luggage wasn't onboard (the "good news") the merger made it difficult to get their names off the computer system!! At this point, the passengers had had enough. Finally at 12:45 p.m we were on our way to Paris.

    We arrived Paris to an empty airport and 1:30 a.m. Our apartment car/driver was not there because of the late arrival and we thus had to pay 60 EURO for our taxi into town. Also, because of the late arrival, the gentleman who was to meet us at our rented apartment was not there. We had to call him, wait for his arrival to let us in, by now 3:30 a.m.

    The passengers were remarkably well-mannered despite the delays and treatment from United/Continental. The gate personnel claimed they knew very little about the situation because of the merger. They indicated they couldn't access each others' computer systems, the plane was marked UNITED but the entertainment system indicated "Welcome to Continental". This entire episode was the worst of our travels and we respectfully request that UNITED/CONTINENTAL show their concern for their customers by adequately compensating us for loosing one entire day of our vacation. There were many children on the flight whose parents certainly experienced far more stress than those of us travelling with older children

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  16. I cannot begin to express how disappointed I am with Continental and United. This whole ordeal seems like a satire skit from Saturday Night Live.

    -First we were told that our flight was being delayed due to an upgrade in airplane. This story seemed odd from the start.
    -Then we were told that due to this delay we all needed to check in again so they could confirm our seats. This is a very difficult task when there are so many passengers on the plane! I stood in line for atleast half an hour. By this time I was starting to get hungry (had dinner about 3 hours before) but all of the restaurants were closed!
    -Then after waiting in line for over half an hour and waiting longer to get on the plane we were told that there was something wrong with the plane. This is when everyone started to get really annoyed. The crew working for Continental were no help either; they seemed to just be playing the blame game and throwing anyone they could under the bus; so that passengers wouldn't be angry with them.
    -Then after waiting for what seems like forever we were told that they need to replace a part on the plane and that part wouldnt arrive until 4am and that we would have to go to a hotel and come back in the morning. They give us vouchers to use for dinner and breakfast at the hotel but they are useless!!! We arrive at the hotel much to late for dinner and we have to leave to check into our flight before the restaurant opens for breakfast!!
    -So I went to back to the airport after just 2 hours of sleep to check into the flght, and then later we find out that the flight isnt even leaving until 11am because the company has lost first the pilots and then the flight attendants!! I could have slept in at the hotel and gotten breakfast and taken a shower if I would have known!!
    -Finally when we get onto the plane we have to wait on the plane for at least half an hour because now the airline has lost passengers!! Such a joke!

    Because of all of this I missed spending the only free day I had in Paris with my boyfriend celebrating my birthday. My birthday had been on the 19th of December, but we were planing on celebrating it on the 22nd with a romantic day in the city followed by a nice dinner. By the time I arrived at our hotel in Paris it was close to 3am, and I couldnt get much sleep because our train for Lyon was leaving the next morning at 9am.

    Also the Continental team at Dulles promised us taxi and hotel vouchers. They said that there would be packets waiting for us with all of the information. Upon arrival we found out that this had been a lie. I only needed a taxi voucher since I already had a hotel my boyfriend booked for us. I was told upon arrival to get a taxi and save the receipt and that I would be reimbursed, but I was not told how to do this apart from "go to the united website". Since we arrived so late that we couldn't take the RER and metro. My taxi cost 43 euros and I saved the receipt but I have not found ANYWHERE on the United or Continental websites how to get reimbursed.

    Unless United does something to improve their image to me, I will never fly United again

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  17. I agree with all of the earlier posts about the timeline. I consider myself fortunate that I was not traveling with young children and did not have any other connections to make to other destinations. However, I had carefully planned my arrival in Paris so that I could use public transport to get to the apartment I rented. Instead, I arrived in Paris in the middle of the night after all transportation had stopped. Before we finally boarded the plane to Paris, an airline agent assured me, personally, that there would be staff to greet us all in Paris to help us with our needs, such as a cab or a hotel room. When I got to Paris, the lonely agent said that there was no one to help us and that we should take a cab and submit a claim for reimbursement from United. I took a cab to the apartment I'd rented and paid 45 euros for the trip. One of the other difficulties I encountered is that my daughter, who is studying in France, had come to meet my airplane. She waited at the airport for me for 16 long hours before I arrived. She had been traveling, too, and it was just too hard for her to come and go from the airport with all of her luggage when she learned that my flight had been delayed. I really hope that United will reimburse us all for the cost of the airplane tickets for this very difficult trip.

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  18. I have been traveling internationally extensively for the past 20 years and I must say this is by far the worst experience I have ever had. Coming back from Manila, Philippines to a blizzard in NYC was much easier!

    This trip was very special because it was my 40th birthday present. Due to the delays we lost half our time in Paris, dinner reservations and had to sustain two nights with less than 4 hours of sleep- not a good way to start a trip and enjoy a wonderful city.

    I have a lot of understanding when there is a delay due to weather, which is out of an airline's control. However this was a comedy of errors, all the fault of our carriers. I will have a very difficult time flying this airline in the future if just compensation is not provided to us, including full reimbursement of the flight all all incidentals.

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  19. There isn't much more that I can add to this other than re-iterating the same issues that the rest of the costumers had. The one thing I can add is that my wife is pregnant, and we're at a place in the pregnancy where any kind of rest is very necessary rest. In fact our trip to Paris was strictly about having a restful, stressless time away from our already very stressful professional schedules. It was extremely upsetting to me that so many managerial errors were made that my wife, myself and the other costumers had to pay for.

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  20. Part 1:
    Anyone who has traveled via commercial air in the last twenty years is familiar with delays and travel disruptions due to weather, mechanical issues, flight crew problems, flight cancellations or computer system malfunctions. What the passengers of United Flight 132 (Washington IAD to Paris) on 21 December experienced was however a unique combination of corporate incompetence, operational disorganization and willful, cynical misrepresentation and misinformation to the paying passengers of that flight.

    The following is a summary of events to illustrate how passengers of UA 132 were treated over the course of the 14-plus hours of the pre-flight period.

    --At check in before the scheduled 10:00 p.m. departure one ticket agent told my adult daughter that she could not check in more than three hours before departure time. It was 7:00 p.m. when she was told this, suggesting that it was already known that the flight would be delayed, although no information was ever presented at that time.

    --At Gate D-15, all passengers were inexplicably required to line up at the desk to "check in" again. The discourteous agents at the counter would not answer passengers' questions about why this was necessary.

    --An announcement past the 10:00 p.m.boarding time informed that there would be a delay while the aircraft was being reconfigured to create more Economy Plus seating, an adjustment from the Continental aircraft seating plan to the United seating configuration. (A common theme during the period: Is this a Continental flight or a United flight?) Subsequent announcements suggest that this reconfiguration explanation was a falsehood.

    --Thirty minutes later a gate agent announced that a technical problem had developed. He said a "right pack" (sic) was leaking and that maintenance personnel were working to repair the leak.

    --Within the next thirty minutes, another announcement revealed that while the cabin crew was at Dulles (subsequently shown to be a falsehood,) the captain was absent and currently incoming on a flight from Newark which had been delayed by bad weather. He was expected around 12:00 a.m. Several passengers at the time commented that weather along the Eastern seaboard that day was clear. Others wondered whether the missing captain was himself flying another aircraft from Newark (in which case would he be able to fly to Europe within crew rest requirements?) or was he deadheading to connect with UA 132? Both unlikely.

    --Immediately after, a gate agent got on the PA system to announce that she had called Continental corporate headquarters (sic) to request authorization to provide passengers at Gate D-15 "refreshments and amenities." The agent said that Continental corporate had denied the request (presumably it was a duty officer in the watch office in Houston who made the decision.) No explanation was given about why the agent made this announcement or what she hoped would be the general effect on the passengers.

    --At midnight, a subsequent announcement by a different but equally discourteous agent revealed that the mechanical problem with the aircraft could not be repaired and that a needed part was being flown in from Newark (we wondered whether the missing captain was bringing a "right pack" on his lap on the same flight.) We were told the part would arrive sometime between 1:00 and 2:00 a.m. and that the repairs would be made in time for a 9:00 a.m. departure the next morning, Dec 22.

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  21. Part II:
    -A period of chaos ensued as gate agents began explaining vouchers for overnight hotel and meals and distributing them. They claimed the hotel (the Landsdowne Resort in Leesburg, Virginia,) was a ten-minute drive (it was closer to thirty minutes.) Agents told passengers to return to the main terminal from Concourse D via the Dulles train; others were directed to the People Mover vehicles (which miraculously were operating past midnight.) Other testimonials have noted that: Shuttle service from Dulles to Landsdowne was inadequate for the approximately 200-plus passengers and some took un-reimbursed taxis to avoid the delay; meal vouchers were useless at either the airport or hotel between the hours of midnight and 6:00 a.m.; some passengers received automated calls from Continental in the early morning hours with incorrect or non-sensible information. In all, most passengers were able to manage between two and four hours of sleep, with no change of clothes and no food. No extra shuttles had been organized for the next morning.

    --Throughout the process, personnel at the United Airlines Customer Assistance desk, located right beside Gate D-15, declared themselves unable to assist any passengers, or to answer questions, or to provide information, due to the non-connectivity of United and Continental computer systems. There was no sense from any employee that this might be a customer relations disaster in the making, or that any extraordinary efforts were being made on passengers' behalf.

    --The next morning at 7:00 a.m. UA 132 passengers stood in line at the United desks outside security to again check in for the flight scheduled to depart from Gate D-15 at 9:00 a.m. At this check in a disinterested ticket agent informed some of us that no check in was necessary; another insisted it was. Service was slow and courtesy non-existent. My wife asked the ticket agent for a telephone number she could call to discuss the flight and the problems and was given a United Customer Care number. It turned out to be a fax number and useless.

    --At approximately 8:00 a.m. one of a half dozen agents now at the gate announced that the captain of the flight was at the airport, but the crew was not due from their hotel until 10:00 a.m. because they had been misinformed regarding the departure time of UA 132. There was no further explanation. More importantly, there was no indication that anyone directed the crew to push forward their arrival time. They apparently had arrived at their hotel just a few hours earlier and were sleep-deprived. Departure time therefore was pushed up to 11:00 a.m.

    --By that time some food vendors in the D and C Concourses were open but only a small sandwich kiosk accepted food vouchers (Subway and Starbucks did not.)

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  22. Part III:
    --At 10:00 a.m. the captain made a series of announcements apologizing for the delays; confirming that mechanical repairs had been effected; assuring passengers that the crew was on its way. He several times stated that although tickets and boarding passes and flight designations stipulated that this was a Continental flight, United Airlines was responsible and was the operating company. He repeated this two or three times. It struck several passengers that these and previous announcements did not overly support the image of the United/Continental Holdings merger.

    --A few minutes after 10:00 a.m. boarding began with First Class &c., boarded first, but it was noted as strange that no pre-boarding preference was given to families with small children The automatic boarding pass scanner/readers were inoperable and boarding was accomplished manually, including one agent handing out complaint cards.

    --Once on board, the cabin attendants were surly and discourteous. One flight attendant told my wife she had only had two hours of sleep. The captain walked up and down the aisle, stopping in front of seat-belted passengers improbably asking "have any questions?" Passengers were remarkably restrained and silent. No movement, no announcements. Ground agents flitted in and out of the aircraft, asking various passengers for boarding passes but offering no explanations. A subsequent announcement revealed that there were two passenger names on the flight manifest who were not physically on the flight, and the crew was trying to reconcile the discrepancy. Back on the flight deck, the captain announced that, per international security conventions, he could not push back the aircraft while there were discrepancies on the passenger manifest. He explained that the good news is that they (somehow) had determined that the two passengers on the manifest were in fact "no shows" and that they had not checked in luggage. They could not, however delete the two no-show passengers from the manifest because the United and Continental computer systems could not talk to one another and they were having problems deleting the names. No further explanation was forthcoming about about which company was, ultimately, responsible for the flight.

    --UA132 took off approximately at 1:00 p.m. United President and CEO Jeff Smisek's public service announcement about UA/CO's passenger loyalty program, talented personnel and expanded capabilities after the merger was vocally greeted with derision. Sometime during the flight a cabin attendant made an announcement that United/Continental agents would be waiting for passengers at Charles de Gaulle airport, but on arrival at 3:00 a.m. Paris time, we saw no agents.

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  23. Part IV:

    Many passengers agreed that this was not a single (or multiple series of) unfortunate jet-age difficulties we all have experienced. This was mismanagement of an (as-yet) unknown problem which was compounded by a series of obvious misstatements and falsehoods. The paying passengers of this flight were deceived and manipulated, and no meaningful reimbursement or compensation was provided for lost vacation/travel time; lost hotel/accommodations; and incidental expenses. The impression is of corporate disinterest, cynicism dishonesty and malpractice. Contradictions, falsehoods, lack of service abound.

    What did come out of the experience is the quite remarkable UA/CO 132 Dec 21 group. As a collection of travelers, I have never seen such patience and forbearance, and such a spontaneous wellspring of unity. This is a matter of Customers' Rights, and I hope the story of this flight and the passenger group receives some media coverage. I also hope Customer Care Executive Ms. Boris will respond positively to group representatives Charlie and Rudi.

    Postscript: At Dulles, during the first night of delays, across the concourse, a ticket agent announced that his flight to Cleveland was overbooked by four seats. He was asking for four volunteers to postpone travel till the next morning, offering a $400 flight voucher for any UA/CO flight, domestic or international, good for a year, plus hotel and dinner vouchers, and MilagePlus credits (which were denied to UA 132 passengers round-trip to Paris because the flight was designated Continental.) The irony was not lost on several UA 132 passengers tabulating their own losses due to the cancellation of our flight.

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  24. Before I launch into my story, I would like to echo the sentiments of
    others who have spoken about the incompetence, dishonesty, blaming and
    general inconsideration of the United staff except for the
    international pilot. In traveling the world for the past 30 years and
    flying on many airlines, the behavior, confusion and misinformation or
    blatant lies of the staff towards the passenegers was truly
    unpjrofessional and frankly despicable. There is never any reason to
    treat people with the type of disregard that we received. The United
    staff repeatedly blamed our difficulties on Continental which was
    meaningless to me as my ticket was through United and I believed them
    to be the responsible party.

    My son and I began our journey to Morocco in Hartford Ct where we left
    on time on our trip Paris. Our travel plans  involved a scheduled 4
    1/2 hour layover at CDG where we were meeting my husband and daughter
    before connecting to an Easyjet flight to Marrakech.  We arrived at
    Dulles to learn that our flight was delayed by 1 1/2 hours, with
    little information conveyed to us other than blaming Continental for
    computer problems and lack of information. When I attempted to explain
    my situation, the agents were both uninterested and rude. When we were
    informed at 11:45 that our flight was cancelled, I expressed my upset
    that I would now miss my connection and meeting my family
    simultaneously and would need a hotel at the airport. I was told that
    missing my connection was my problem and that United had no obligation
    to give me a room. When I finally was given permission for a room at a
    hotel at CDG, the agent refused to give me a printout for Paris but
    said it was in my record. The agent the next day printed out my record
    which proved to be essential in Paris because when I got to the hotel
    with the other 10-12 people, having that record was the only proof I
    had of the promise for a room. When I finally finished with the agent
    at Dulles, I was told to catch the bus to the hotel which was nowhere
    in sight so I paid $33 for a cab to the hotel which was 20 minutes
    from the airport. The agent told us to return to the airport at 7 a.m.
    The next morning for the 9:15 flight. When I finally arrived at the
    hotel, there was a line of approximately 50 people and it was now 1:40
    a.m! At this point I was so tired and upset that I basically cried in
    the lobby. I did not get into my room until 2:45 and I was back on the
    bus to the airport at 6:30 the next morning. No agents were at the
    gate but thrones who did arrive were at least pleasant and relatively
    honest with us, telling us that the flight was delayed again due to
    mechanical problems and that the crew had been told to
    arrive for a departure at 11:15. Needless to say, the rest of us would
    have liked the extra sleep or the opportunity to have breakfast too.
    We were given vouchers for breakfast for $8 which were not accepted at
    nearby restaurants. We waited and waited with very little information
    and much frustration. We finally took off at 12:45 p.m. Meanwhile, my
    husband in Paris had changed the flights for my son and myself at a
    cost of $390 and my son and I were now scheduled to leave Paris at 6
    a.m the following day. When we arrived in Paris, we were told to go to
    the Hilton hotel at CDG where there was no record of the hotel
    vouchers as I stated earlier. We waited again, got a room, slept for 1
    hour and went back to the airport for the next flight. We arrived in
    Marrakech absolutely exhausted, having lost basically 2 days of our
    vacation and were too tired to even spend much time exploring the
    city. The entire experience was hugely stressful, upsetting, and
    exhausting.

    I believe that we should all receive compensation for the tremendous
    inconvenience and utter incompetence of this flight as means for
    making amends to us.

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  25. part 1
    Anyone who has traveled via commercial air in the last twenty years is familiar with delays and travel disruptions due to weather, mechanical issues, flight crew problems, flight cancellations or computer system malfunctions. What the passengers of United Flight 132 (Washington IAD to Paris) on 21 December experienced was however a unique combination of corporate incompetence, operational disorganization and willful, cynical misrepresentation and misinformation to the paying passengers of that flight.

    The following is a summary of events to illustrate how passengers of UA 132 were treated over the course of the 14-plus hours of the pre-flight period.

    --At check in before the scheduled 10:00 p.m. departure one ticket agent told my adult daughter that she could not check in more than three hours before departure time. It was 7:00 p.m. when she was told this, suggesting that it was already known that the flight would be delayed, although no information was ever presented at that time.

    --At Gate D-15, all passengers were inexplicably required to line up at the desk to "check in" again. The discourteous agents at the counter would not answer passengers' questions about why this was necessary.

    --An announcement past the 10:00 p.m.boarding time informed that there would be a delay while the aircraft was being reconfigured to create more Economy Plus seating, an adjustment from the Continental aircraft seating plan to the United seating configuration. (A common theme during the period: Is this a Continental flight or a United flight?) Subsequent announcements suggest that this reconfiguration explanation was a falsehood.

    --Thirty minutes later a gate agent announced that a technical problem had developed. He said a "right pack" (sic) was leaking and that maintenance personnel were working to repair the leak.

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  26. part 2
    --Within the next thirty minutes, another announcement revealed that while the cabin crew was at Dulles (subsequently shown to be a falsehood,) the captain was absent and currently incoming on a flight from Newark which had been delayed by bad weather. He was expected around 12:00 a.m. Several passengers at the time commented that weather along the Eastern seaboard that day was clear. Others wondered whether the missing captain was himself flying another aircraft from Newark (in which case would he be able to fly to Europe within crew rest requirements?) or was he deadheading to connect with UA 132? Both unlikely.

    --Immediately after, a gate agent got on the PA system to announce that she had called Continental corporate headquarters (sic) to request authorization to provide passengers at Gate D-15 "refreshments and amenities." The agent said that Continental corporate had denied the request (presumably it was a duty officer in the watch office in Houston who made the decision.) No explanation was given about why the agent made this announcement or what she hoped would be the general effect on the passengers.

    --At midnight, a subsequent announcement by a different but equally discourteous agent revealed that the mechanical problem with the aircraft could not be repaired and that a needed part was being flown in from Newark (we wondered whether the missing captain was bringing a "right pack" on his lap on the same flight.) We were told the part would arrive sometime between 1:00 and 2:00 a.m. and that the repairs would be made in time for a 9:00 a.m. departure the next morning, Dec 22.

    --A period of chaos ensued as gate agents began explaining vouchers for overnight hotel and meals and distributing them. They claimed the hotel (the Landsdowne Resort in Leesburg, Virginia,) was a ten-minute drive (it was closer to thirty minutes.) Agents told passengers to return to the main terminal from Concourse D via the Dulles train; others were directed to the People Mover vehicles (which miraculously were operating past midnight.) Other testimonials have noted that: Shuttle service from Dulles to Landsdowne was inadequate for the approximately 200-plus passengers and some took un-reimbursed taxis to avoid the delay; meal vouchers were useless at either the airport or hotel between the hours of midnight and 6:00 a.m.; some passengers received automated calls from Continental in the early morning hours with incorrect or non-sensible information. In all, most passengers were able to manage between two and four hours of sleep, with no change of clothes and no food. No extra shuttles had been organized for the next morning.

    --Throughout the process, personnel at the United Airlines Customer Assistance desk, located right beside Gate D-15, declared themselves unable to assist any passengers, or to answer questions, or to provide information, due to the non-connectivity of United and Continental computer systems. There was no sense from any employee that this might be a customer relations disaster in the making, or that any extraordinary efforts were being made on passengers' behalf.

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  27. part 3
    --At midnight, a subsequent announcement by a different but equally discourteous agent revealed that the mechanical problem with the aircraft could not be repaired and that a needed part was being flown in from Newark (we wondered whether the missing captain was bringing a "right pack" on his lap on the same flight.) We were told the part would arrive sometime between 1:00 and 2:00 a.m. and that the repairs would be made in time for a 9:00 a.m. departure the next morning, Dec 22.

    --A period of chaos ensued as gate agents began explaining vouchers for overnight hotel and meals and distributing them. They claimed the hotel (the Landsdowne Resort in Leesburg, Virginia,) was a ten-minute drive (it was closer to thirty minutes.) Agents told passengers to return to the main terminal from Concourse D via the Dulles train; others were directed to the People Mover vehicles (which miraculously were operating past midnight.) Other testimonials have noted that: Shuttle service from Dulles to Landsdowne was inadequate for the approximately 200-plus passengers and some took un-reimbursed taxis to avoid the delay; meal vouchers were useless at either the airport or hotel between the hours of midnight and 6:00 a.m.; some passengers received automated calls from Continental in the early morning hours with incorrect or non-sensible information. In all, most passengers were able to manage between two and four hours of sleep, with no change of clothes and no food. No extra shuttles had been organized for the next morning.

    --Throughout the process, personnel at the United Airlines Customer Assistance desk, located right beside Gate D-15, declared themselves unable to assist any passengers, or to answer questions, or to provide information, due to the non-connectivity of United and Continental computer systems. There was no sense from any employee that this might be a customer relations disaster in the making, or that any extraordinary efforts were being made on passengers' behalf.

    --The next morning at 7:00 a.m. UA 132 passengers stood in line at the United desks outside security to again check in for the flight scheduled to depart from the gate at 9:00 a.m. At this check in a disinterested ticket agent informed some of us that no check in was necessary; another insisted it was. Service was slow and courtesy non-existent. My wife asked the ticket agent for a telephone number she could call to discuss the flight and the problems and was given a United Customer Care number. It turned out to be a fax number and useless.

    --At approximately 8:00 a.m. one of a half dozen agents now at the gate announced that the captain of the flight was at the airport, but the crew was not due from their hotel until 10:00 a.m. because they had been misinformed regarding the departure time of UA 132. There was no further explanation. More importantly, there was no indication that anyone directed the crew to push forward their arrival time. They apparently had arrived at their hotel just a few hours earlier and were sleep-deprived. Departure time therefore was pushed up to 11:00 a.m.

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  28. part 4
    --By that time some food vendors in the D and C Concourses were open but only a hallway sandwhich stand and Dunkin' Donuts accepted food vouchers.

    --At 10:00 a.m. the captain made a series of announcements apologizing for the delays; confirming that mechanical repairs had been effected; assuring passengers that the crew was on its way. He several times stated that although tickets and boarding passes and flight designations stipulated that this was a Continental flight, United Airlines was responsible and was the operating company. He repeated this two or three times. It struck several passengers that these and previous announcements did not overly support the image of the United/Continental Holdings merger.

    --A few minutes after 10:00 a.m. boarding began with First Class &c., boarded first, but it was noted as strange that no pre-boarding preference was given to families with small children The automatic boarding pass scanner/readers were inoperable and boarding was accomplished manually, including one agent handing out complaint cards.

    --Once on board, the cabin attendants were surly and discourteous. One flight attendant told my wife she had only had two hours of sleep. The captain walked up and down the aisle, stopping in front of seat-belted passengers improbably asking "have any questions?" Passengers were remarkably restrained and silent. No movement, no announcements. Ground agents flitted in and out of the aircraft, asking various passengers for boarding passes but offering no explanations. A subsequent announcement revealed that there were two passenger names on the flight manifest who were not physically on the flight, and the crew was trying to reconcile the discrepancy. Back on the flight deck, the captain announced that, per international security conventions, he could not push back the aircraft while there were discrepancies on the passenger manifest. He explained that the good news is that they (somehow) had determined that the two passengers on the manifest were in fact "no shows" and that they had not checked in luggage. They could not, however delete the two no-show passengers from the manifest because the United and Continental computer systems could not talk to one another and they were having problems deleting the names. No further explanation was forthcoming about about which company was, ultimately, responsible for the flight.

    --UA132 took off approximately at 1:00 p.m. United President and CEO Jeff Smisek's public service announcement about UA/CO's passenger loyalty program, talented personnel and expanded capabilities after the merger was vocally greeted with derision. Sometime during the flight a cabin attendant made an announcement that United/Continental agents would be waiting for passengers at Charles de Gaulle airport, but on arrival at 3:00 a.m. Paris time, we saw no agents.

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  29. part 5

    Many passengers agreed that this was not a single (or multiple series of) unfortunate jet-age difficulties we all have experienced. This was mismanagement of an (as-yet) unknown problem which was compounded by a series of obvious misstatements and falsehoods. The paying passengers of this flight were deceived and manipulated, and no meaningful reimbursement or compensation was provided for lost vacation/travel time; lost hotel/accommodations; and incidental expenses. The impression is of corporate disinterest, cynicism dishonesty and malpractice. Contradictions, falsehoods, lack of service abound.

    What did come out of the experience is the quite remarkable UA/CO 132 Dec 21 group. As a collection of travelers, I have never seen such patience and forbearance, and such a spontaneous wellspring of unity. This is a matter of Customers' Rights, and I hope the story of this flight and the passenger group receives some media coverage. I also hope Customer Care Executive Ms. Boris will respond positively to group representatives Charlie and Rudi.

    Postscript: At Dulles, during the first night of delays, across the concourse, a ticket agent announced that his flight to Cleveland was overbooked by four seats. He was asking for four volunteers to postpone travel till the next morning, offering a $400 flight voucher for any UA/CO flight, domestic or international, good for a year, plus hotel and dinner vouchers, and MilagePlus credits (which were denied to UA 132 passengers round-trip to Paris because the flight was designated Continental.) The irony was not lost on several UA 132 passengers tabulating their own losses due to the cancellation of our flight.

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  30. What should have begun as a standard international flight from Dulles to CDG, Paris turned into a travel nightmare as our trip was delayed more than 15 hours and we encountered problem after problem on our United/Continental flight. First, we were told there was a mechanical problem with the plane and that the plane was being replaced with another plane which meant that each passenger had to check in again for our original flight again as the seat assignments could possibly change. Then as we were waiting for yet another delay (they said the pilot was not there yet) they finally ended up rescheduling the 11:30 pm flight until the following morning at 9:15 because they had to fly a part from NJ to fix a problem with the plane. So we waited in line once again for hotel vouchers to a hotel they said was very close to the airport and ended up being about 25 minutes away and finally got to bed around 2 am. We were shuttled back in the morning to Dulles at 7 AM and our 9:15 flight was once again delayed as the crew apparently thought the flight was at 11 AM so while we all woke up early to hurry back to the airport, they were still asleep at the hotel. They arrived by 10:30/10:45 and we were finally boarding the plane around 11:15. Then as we were anxiously awaiting our departure on the plane, we encountered yet another problem. There were apparently 2 passengers that were missing and they in fact found out that they were not on the plane and we had to wait some more until they figured out how to remove them from their computer systems as we could not arrive in Paris with 2 passengers listed that were not in fact there. It literally was one problem after another and never seemed to end. We were completely exhausted and were now not going to arrive into Paris until after 1:20 am in the morning Paris time. We had been told more lies and promises that the continental staff in Paris would be taking care of us upon our arrival in Paris and putting us up in hotels and paying for taxis since most public transportation at that hour would be closed. Well upon arriving in Paris, there was nobody there to help us as most of the ticket counters were closed and a group of us went to the Hilton Hotel where we thought our rooms were pre-arranged for us which was not the case. We each had to fight with a very unpleasant continental rep in Paris at the hotel and beg her to put us up in the hotel as it was now past 3 AM and we needed to sleep. After much wait and back and forth discussions, we were finally given a room and got to bed around 4:30 AM. Our experience with United/Continental was the worst travel experience I've had in over 20 years of travel and hope that this never happens again as we lost time with our families and was a very exhausting experience. We hope that United/Continental properly compensates us for the time and money we lost on this trip.

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  31. "Planes change. Values don't. Your priorities will always be ours."
    -Words written on United Airlines drink napkin given to passengers on United 132

    I would like to tell you the story of how United and Continental have disastrously attempted a merger, leaving behind customer values, through my observations when I traveled from Washington DC to Paris
    December 21-23, 2011.
    A lack of professionalism, including an absence of transparency regarding delays and negligent treatment of families with children resulted in an awful experience for all. The presence of accurate communication among corporate officials and representatives at the gate could have easily mitigated several of the issues described below. Additionally, an increase in airline representatives at the gate would have made the issuance of vouchers/new boarding passes far more efficient.

    Ont the original night of departure, after a vague announcement of delay due to an aircraft change, passengers were told to form a line to receive new boarding passes. he airline representative who announced the delays became visibly impatient and frustrated with passengers who were concerned and seeking more information.

    Especially considering the number of international passengers, there was no clear explanation ever provided regarding the precise reasons for the delays until it was announced, after 11:30PM, that we would not depart until the following morning. Apparently several issues resulted in the extensive delays, only some of which were articulated to the passengers.

    We were asked to stand in very long lines for hotel/taxi vouchers and hastily informed that our luggage should remain at the airport. Little guidance was provided for the travel the next day. We waited in long lines again at the hotel to be checked in because no reasonable hotel has enough employees at 1AM to check in 100 passengers. I did not reach my room until after 2:30 AM and then woke up at 5:30AM to catch a flight supposedly at 9:15AM.

    The following day there were an assortment of delaying issues including flight attendants who were misinformed of the departure time and believed we were leaving at 11AM, and due to inconsistencies between Continental and United computer systems, complications with removing missing passengers from the manifest. We finally departed at 12:45PM, over 14 hours after our original departure time. Flight representatives at the gate unprofessionally placed blame for the series of delays on United and or Continental Airlines in the hours preceding the flight. One of things I found most atrocious about this experience is that families with young children were not given the priority in any circumstance leading up to this flight. Airline representatives should have ensured families with young children were first in line for vouchers, check in, etc.

    Upon our arrival at 1:30AM in Paris, many passengers were led to believe that airline representatives would be present to help us manage hotel and taxi options. The most information that we received from these representatives was ''we don't know what they said in Washington but they lied to you'' and then vague instructions to submit taxi receipts on the website.

    I lost a day of an already short vacation and incurred the cost of a very expensive taxi to my final destination due to our delayed arrival. I believe all passengers deserve just compensation from Continental and United for this poorly managed series of events and complications.
    In difficult economic times, commercial airliners must prioritize customer service and have a sense of accountability if they hope to stay in business. Furthermore, it is unacceptable for a mission driven organization to allow a simple maintenance issue turn into such an ordeal. We understand bad things happen, Continental and United must adopt a better strategy for managing their business during this transition and beyond-especially when things go wrong-because that is the true test of sustainability in a company.

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  32. All of the remarks above are absolutely correct and me too I have suffered from this ghastly trip... from Los Angeles to Paris. I have travelled extensively all over the world but never experienced as much disorganisation and disrespect from such a well known airline.
    By the time I arrived at the hotel with the shuttle bus plus the very long queue for the check-in I really only had two hours to sleep. Had the airline been organised we could have stayed longer at the hotel and get some sleep instead of waiting again all these hours before finally boarding.
    My friends came to pick me up at nearly two in the morning and I felt really bad as they had to go to work the next morning. I personally missed two very important appointments on the afternoon of the 22nd December.
    Needless to say this trip was a nightmare and am especially thinking of the poor parents with young children and babies..

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  33. PART 1:
    First, we would like to reiterate the sentiments expressed by others. We have read through every entry on this blog and agree wholeheartedly that the other passengers have accurately and thoroughly outlined this incredibly unpleasant experience resulting from Continental/United’s lack of any professionalism in dealing with problems as they arose.

    We have only a couple things to add to others’ account of the multiple delays, horrendous communication by ALL affiliated with Continental and United, and inadequate efforts to address our concerns and compensate us financially. I had typed up an entire timeline of our experience but now that I see the work done by other passengers, I only feel a need to include some specific complaints about our experience:

    • LACK OF CONCERN FOR HEALTH ISSUES: Every time we fly, we make a special effort to ensure that we have particular seats—my boyfriend has severe claustrophobia, and so had made a SPECIFIC point to reserve an aisle seat on this 7.5-hour flight. We arrived to find that the seats we had reserved MONTHS in advance (and had confirmed several times) had been switched, so that not only were me and my boyfriend now sitting on opposite sides of the airplane, but his seat had been switched from an aisle to a middle seat. Putting aside the more sentimental fact that were traveling to Paris together for the first time and hoped this would be pleasant start to a romantic trip together, there was a real health concern here. When we explained this situation to the representatives, they were entirely unsympathetic and said all they could do was sell us different seats for 100 additional dollars each. This is a completely unacceptable response to an extremely valid health concern that we were led to believe we had addressed in advance.
    • INADEQUATE COMPENSATION FOR ADDITIONAL MEAL AND TRAVEL EXPENSES INCURED: None of the vouchers we received from the airline were sufficient to cover our expenses. The night of the 21st, we received NO meal vouchers or food, and the breakfast and meal vouchers received on the 22nd barely covered our costs (if you’ve ever been in an airport, you know that $6 for a meal does not get you very far). We took a taxi back to our house in Washington, and the $65 voucher provided by the airline did not cover the full trip home, or the trip back to the airport. We received NO compensation for our taxi from CDG, and it is not clear how we will ever be compensated for this (though staff at Dulles guaranteed that airline staff at CDG would issue vouchers for taxi transportation upon arrival).

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  34. PART 2:

    • TIME LOST: We have jobs, school, and many other things going on in our lives. As I am sure is true for most people on this flight, a trip such as this one is carefully planned. Personally, we bought our tickets more than 3 months in advance, and planned to take off time from work, from school, and from other engagements in order to make this trip. We purchased this flight so that we would arrive in Paris several days before Christmas in order to spend invaluable time with family and friends, and complete some Christmas shopping. We also selected an overnight flight so that our jetlag would not be so bad, and so that we would have the full day of the 22nd in Paris. Alas, none of this happened. Though we can’t give you receipts for all of this time lost, we would like to reiterate that these are VERY REAL COSTS that your airline has imposed on its customers: A full day in Paris, hours upon hours of lost sleep, jet lag that has plagued us this whole trip (much worse than after the same time changes in the past), and lost salaries in time taken off from work that didn’t have to be.
    • GENERAL INCOMPETENCY: Throughout this process, everyone we dealt with in Continental/United was EXTRAORDINARILY incompetent. It was actually quite impressive to see in how many different ways we could be mislead, manipulated, or just straight out lied to. Every single person we spoke to pointed us to someone else who would “fix our problems”. These people, in turn, turned out to either (a) point us on to someone else (often the same person who had referred us) (b) couldn’t do what was requested or (c) didn’t exist. It was also frequently clear that the staff and crew lied to us, and had information in advance that they concealed from us. For example, I often learned of delays to our flight via email notification long before the crew shared this news with everyone in the terminal. At first, United personnel hid behind the fact that this was a “Continental” flight. We were told that we needed to talk to “Continental” staff. However not a single person at IAD was “Continental”—every single staff member told us they were “United” staff, not “Continental“ staff

    We would like to finish by saying that this was the single most unpleasant experience that either of us has ever had with air travel. My boyfriend is a Star Alliance Elite Plus Member (Continental was until recently a member of Star Alliance), who has flown between the US and France multiple times a year for his entire life—including dozens of transatlantic flights on Continental. I fly domestically quite frequently, and will be traveling internationally more and more in the upcoming years.

    Again, this was by far our worst experience flying. For years, the Continental name stood as a guarantee of service and professionalism. This is why we confidently purchased Continental tickets for our trip to Paris. It is sad to see that the result in merging with United, Continental has compromised its brand name and abandoned the values that had defined what used to be an excellent airline.

    If we and all the other passengers are not fully reimbursed for this travel and all the additional expenses incurred throughout this experience, neither my boyfriend nor I will take another Continental/United flight again. We will take our business to any number of airlines who are willing to treat their customers with basic decency, and we will advise all friends and family to do the same.

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  35. Like many have said prior to us, there is no point rehashing the details of this horrendous travel experience, but I want to reemphasize a few things. First, we see our family in France at best a couple weeks a year. This year, we were only able to find time for a week and our plan was to make every minute count. Paris wasn't our final destination. We had a connection to a train which we obviously missed. At the end, we were 16 hours late, with only 3 hours of sleepin 48 hours. This reduced the time spent with our family to five days. On the material side, we also had to purchase a new train ticket at the last minute (and hence at maximum price) and that the ticket originally purchased wasn't refundable.

    We have traveled many times between the US and France, and our strategy is always to try and find the cheapest tickets, regardless of the company. This means that we have flown with every US company. Needless to say that we won't fly with United anymore, and we will strongly recommend my friends and family to do the same. Technical issues happen. So does misplaced luggage. These are part of the traveling experience (unfortunately). But no customer should ever be treated like we have been ever again. We am not interested in a credit or a discount applicable to a future ticket purchase on United as . Like the rest of the victims of flight 132, we want a full refund of my plane ticket and other incurred expenses (such as the new train ticket) in cash. We show full support to this initiative.

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  36. Part 1

    On December 20, I checked in online. I was automatically assigned a seat in the last row (row 40). I hate seating at the back because turbulences are worse there, so I changed my seat and got a seat in row 9.

    I checked in at Dulles on December 21 around 7.30 pm. The lady at the check in counter told me that the flight would leave at 11.30 pm instead of 10 pm. On my way to the gate I noticed that the screens still indicated a departure at 10 pm for this flight, so I thought the lady had made a mistake and the flight would leave on time.

    On my way to the gate I looked at my boarding pass and noticed that I had a seat in row 40 instead of 9. Arriving at gate D15, I went to the United Customer service counter located right next to the gate, and asked the person there to change my seat back to row 9. She said she was United, not Continental, so she could not access the Continental computer system, and she advised me to ask the personnel at the gate when they arrived.

    The gate personnel arrived and I tried talking to them, but they were busy trying to set up their computers and they refused to talk to anybody for at least 30 minutes. They were trying various passwords that did not work. After 30 minutes and lots of phone calls, they finally succeeded in setting up a computer, then, after some more struggling, another one.

    At that point they said all passengers had to check in again because there had been a change of aircraft (something about the plane having to meet United standards, the new plane would have Economy Plus seats). I was the first person in line for this second check-in. I asked for my seat to be changed back to row 9 but was told that that was not possible because all seats at the front were taken. An hour later, when all passengers had completed check-in, I asked again and was told that there were 5 available seats in front but these seats could not be assigned to me before boarding started (!)

    It gradually became clear to me that the agents (there were now 4 of them) knew something was wrong and that the boarding could not take place. They seemed to be totally overwhelmed, They were not making any announcement.

    I remember asking questions and getting « this is all Continental’s fault » as an answer (!)
    Then there was an announcement that there was a technical problem with the plane (a leak in a tank). Pretty much at the same time, we were told that the captain was missing (his flight had been delayed due to weather conditions).

    At about 11.30 pm, an announcement was made: the plane is cancelled because the needed part has to be shipped from Newark, it will arrive at 4 am. The plane will leave tomorrow at 9.15 am, bags stay at the airport, passengers to check in again (for the third time!) tomorrow, rooms have been booked at a hotel 10 minutes away from the airport.

    I was one of the first people in line and got my letter for the hotel and two 15-dollar- vouchers (for dinner and breakfast) at about 12.30 am. The shuttle had about 10 seats (!), so many people had to wait for the next one.

    It took about 25 minutes to arrive at the hotel! (If I had known it was so far away, I would have gone back to my house in DC.) At the hotel the restaurant was of course closed so we could not use the vouchers, except in a tiny boutique where there was no consistent food, only granola bars and sweets. The vouchers could not be used to buy a toothbrush (remember that the bags had been kept at the airport), we were told they were only valid for food! I went to bed at around 2.30 am, thinking about the passengers who were last in line and were probably still at the airport or waiting for a shuttle.

    I was woken up the next morning at 5.15 am by an automated call from Continental. The message made no sense at all, it mentioned a flight from Paris to Dulles, not from Dulles to Paris! No breakfast, the restaurant was closed. I took the first shuttle at 6 am.

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  37. Part 2

    I checked in at about 6.45 am and went back to gate D15. The boarding pass they had given me had the wrong date (December 21) and wrong departure and arrival times. No United/Continental personnel at the gate when I arrived there.

    Around 9 am, the personnel arrived (not the same one as the day before) and there we go again with the trial and error process to try and open the check in. I heard an agent say the technical problem had been repaired during the night (no announcement). Around 9.30 am an announcement: the crew did not know that the flight was supposed to leave at 9.15 am, so they are still at their hotel and the flight will leave at 11.30 am instead of 9.15 am, and arrive around midnight! Another announcement: « This is a United flight, United bears the responsibility » (repeated 3 times). Contradictory with what all agents had been telling us until then: « this is Continental’s responsibility ». Also, most agents present at the gate were not aware of what had happened the day before.

    I got an 8-dollar voucher for breakfast.
    The pilot arrived. We pressed him with questions and he said there had been a technical problem, with the air conditioning system (NOT a leak in a tank!), and it had JUST been fixed (it had NOT been fixed earlier in the morning; the first time they had tried to fix it, it had broken again; and he had just checked himself that everything was okay now.)

    We waited for the crew. I asked some kind of manager who had just shown up about compensations. He said we could get compensated through the United/Continental website. He also said that United agents would be waiting for passengers in Paris with vouchers for hotels and taxis. He insisted United agents would be there with vouchers, because United had contacted Paris to let them know about the situation. He said « I don’t know anything about what happened yesterday, but this morning it is a technical problem and it is United’s fault ».

    Finally the crew arrived (around 10.30 am). We started boarding. The boarding was MANUAL because of computer problems, so it took for ever (there was only one line, until they finally figured out 2 lines would be quicker!)

    At about 12 pm, everybody was in the plane, but the plane did not leave. No announcement. I asked why we were not leaving. The pilot made an announcement: since this is an international flight, the number of passengers must be correct. However, two passengers are missing. Since United's and Continental's systems cannot talk to each other, it is at this point impossible to take the two passengers off the passenger list. This is the cause for the additional delay. The plane cannot leave until this issue is fixed.
    After about 30 minutes, the plane took off. 14 hours and 30 minutes after the initially scheduled departure time.

    Upon arrival in Paris, around 1.35 am local time, no vouchers. I paid 45 euros for a taxi and arrived home at about 3 am.

    I have never encountered so many different problems with a single flight. Most of them seem to be due to the lack of communication between the Continental and United information systems. There was a total lack of consideration for passengers, and a total lack of professionalism from agents, who were publicly rejecting the fault on Continental staff. We were given contradictory information throughout these 14 hours, and were obviously told many lies. The captain was the only person who seemed to be giving accurate information.

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  38. On December 21st, I left San Francisco to go to Washington from where I had 1H to change my plan and take the United/Continental flight n°132 to Paris CDG. As I had only one hour to change, I was a worried to miss my second flight.
    Fortunately, the first flight from San Francisco arrived 30min earlier in Dulles. Knowing we will arrive earlier, I was more relieved. But once there, it was the beginning of a long nightmare. I totally agree with the time line of the event, however I would like to point out a few things I saw.

    First when we get our vouchers for the hotel, we were supposed to be able to have dinner. Or once at the hotel, everything was closed and nobody was able to give us food.
    As the breakfast started at 6:00am and the first shuttle to the airport was at 6:00am, half of the passengers could not get a breakfast at the hotel in order to be at the airport at 7:00am as the airline asked. But by 9:00am, time when the flight was re(re)(re)scheduled nobody from the airline was at the departure gate. The lack of communication was then obvious.

    Second, when we get vouchers for breakfast and lunch for a total of 15$, what are we supposed to buy at the airport where a bottle of water is half the voucher. I had a delay once with British airways and they also gave us vouchers but their price wasn’t that ridiculous! It was at least 20€ for one meal, per person.
    Third, I remember, I was one of the last passengers to board the plane. As there was no more space in the cabin, the last passengers with a carry one luggage were asked to let them to the personal, in order to put them in the baggage hold of the plane. Then one women didn’t want to let her carry one because she needed her stuffs during the flight. Then, the personal present at the door of the aircraft started to be aggressive with her, telling her to leave the plane if she doesn’t want to let her carry on, on hold. And if she is not happy, she can take another plane. I am sorry but after waiting more than 14H to get into this plane, is that the behavior that the airline company should adopt?! I think this is unacceptable!

    And last, once we arrived in Paris at 2:00am, we went with a few people to the desk of united to ask for taxi and accommodation for the night. We were all surprised to see that nobody from united was expecting us in Paris. They almost didn’t know that our plane was delayed and we were about to land in Paris around the middle of the night.

    So congratulation to United/Continental, even if your personal repeated several times that you are one and unique airline, you never acted so. Your rivalry and lack of responsibility, throwing the bullet to the others is unacceptable for a worldwide airline company. Through this you showed how much you care about your passengers!

    Happy New Year to everyone and all the best for 2012!

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  39. On Wednesday December 21, my son and I were first in line at the check-in counter. Even though it was 7:00pm -3 hours exactly before the original departure time, as recommended- we were told that they did not know when or how they could communicate with the airport computers and allow check-in procedures. Anyway our plane being delayed on its way from New-York, we would have half-an-hour delay... By the time we reached the departure gate, the delay had been increased and the departure time postponed to 11:30pm.

    This was only the beginning of the more than 17 hours that we spent stranded in Dulles Airport!... Much less, it is true, than the 7 hours we then spent in the cold of the night in CDG airport -with everything closed with iron curtains: not just the coffee shops but also the restrooms!-

    Lack of information, false informations, refusal to communicate to passengers or address their questions and concerns, antagonizing verbally some passengers, brushing off others, declining responsibility about anything and everything or attributing it to other parties (United in Paris, or the company-on-line for giving vouchers, taxis, hotel rooms or compensations....)

    My son and I chose to sleep on the airport seats of our departure gate -as did another couple of people-.
    As told by another passenger in his testimonial, the passengers were told to be back at 7:00am, but no-one from the airline(s) came to the gate before at least 9:00am. And then, they asked the passengers who wanted to talk to them to form a line and remain there while they were trying to communicate with the airport computers. On the "departure flights" panels, our flight was not listed. But, since it did not exist for the airport, the company's members could not edit the documents for the on-flight crew, neither could they do check-in, boarding or luggage verification. After 3 people worked on solving that problem for a-while, they realized that what was interfering with the efficiency of their communication to the airport was the lack of communication of the computers of Continental and United (Continental flight on a United plane)!!!

    On arrival in Paris, I was supposed to take a train from the CDG station to Bordeaux with transit to La Teste. I tried without success to cancel my reservation from Dulles Airport: 129 euros debited for nothing!
    The company representative finally accepted to issue me a paper (on a boarding pass paper) attesting of the flight delay of "12 hours" "because: delayed"!!! Great explanation! Other inconsistency in this brief document: flight "was delayed: 12 hrs", "Remarks: Continental 132 delayed causing 24 hr delay to destination".

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  40. Other worry added because of our late arrival: there were no more train seats RoissyCDG-Bordeaux available before December 26!
    For hours I considered the scary option to rent a car and drive in a total state of exhaustion -if I was able to find a car to rent-. This was really worrying me -and my son even more-.
    Fortunately, when the SNCF offices opened at 6:10am, a teller was able to find 1 -and only 1- seat available on a train. (She recommended me not to miss it, otherwise I would have to wait up to December 26!)

    My son was supposed to stay in Paris. But the person "greeting" us at the exit of the plane was clear: no taxi paid by the company. Maybe they would be reimbursed afterwards... What we had been told in Washington about hotel accommodations or taxis were "lies". "Vouchers should have been issued in Washington. In Paris they were not responsible for anything." In summary: no change of attitude by the company(ies) representatives: denials, lies, lack of compassion and responsibility, total lack of consideration for the passengers.

    My son anyway, was worried for me and decided to stay with me up to my departure for the South-West of France. He spent the following 7 hours with me seating in that cold train station: impossible to rest.

    I am not in the best of health, and the added stress, worry and exhaustion were not what I needed. I have been sick since then and have not yet been able to recuperate.

    I am sorry to admit, as a lot of passengers of that unfortunate flight, but I do not feel like trusting United anymore, since it may entail to trust Continental-United... I do believe that the top management of that company should prove its real regrets by reimbursing the full amounts of those tickets and of the added expenses incurred by the passengers because of the delay.
    I hold a United credit card, and I begin even to reconsider using it.

    A nice commercial gesture would be appreciated in order to leave behind this lengthy and absurd trip!
    The few letters of personal experiences do not begin to cover the absurdity of what we lived through. It seemed at times to be a psychological or social experiment, or a hidden camera scenario.
    Please, help us to come back to reality in 2012 with a better image of United-Continental!

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  41. Just like all the other passengers mentioned above, the flight United 132 was a horrible experience, a nightmare! I have traveled several times and never have I dealt with such an incompetent, inconsiderate and disorganized personnel. There was a miscommunication problem because we were given mixed information or no information at all. The flight was cancelled on Wednesday night and rescheduled for Thursday morning at 9:15am. We were told by the staff to be at the airport at 7am to check in again. I only got 3 hours of sleep that night. I got to the airport around 6:45am and was at the gate D15 before 8am. There was no United staff at the gate when I arrived. The flight was delayed again, and was scheduled to leave at 9:45 am. At about 9:20am, an employee makes this announcement: "Sorry for the inconvenience we are causing you guys this morning. We just found out that the crew is not here yet. We don't know their whereabouts. As soon as they get here, we will start boarding". In all my travels, I have never heard of such! Few minutes later the same employee announced that they have found the captain but not the flight attendants. In fact, the crew members were told that the flight is leaving at 11:30am while the passengers were told that the flight is leaving at 9:15am on Thursday morning. The $8 food voucher given to us was not enough to buy a meal. I lost a whole day of vacation on an already short vacation (I had 12 days vacation to be exact). I wholeheartedly support this initiative. It was an exhausting and expensive trip and I think that the passengers should be adequately compensated.

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  42. United flight 132 was the most stressful, tiring, and frustrating flying experience I have ever had to say the very least. I was traveling alone from school to Paris to meet my family that lives in California; not only am I not familiar with flying alone, in an unfamiliar airport, I had to transfer flights and fly overseas without my parents or friend at my side. Throughout the experience of the flight delay, shuttle to and from the hotel, and waiting time in the terminal my only comfort of safety and inside knowledge came from fellow passengers, NOT from the staff of United or Continental.

    What came as a huge shock to me was not only the lack of information given or the false information given (first it was weather THEN it was technical THEN it was crew/captain missing) was the absolute disconnect between United and Continental staff. I thought these two conglomerates were merging, claiming a new motto of "Let's Fly Together." There was no flying together on that flight. The United staff was blaming Continental for not providing beverages/snacks and vise-versa. I even at one point heard a United representative tell a passenger that he personally was "not happy about the merger, it's bull shit, no one's happy."

    On top of the utter disappointment of missing an entire day (out of seven) in Paris I missed spending the entire day with my grandmother whom I see once a year and lives in France. I missed spending time with family and I had no way of letting them know my whereabouts and what would happen to my flight because I, myself, was uninformed.

    I agree with all of the testimonies posted here on this blog and I too want compensation for the awful flight experience I had. I can honestly say that I will never take, nor recommend a United or Continental flight from this day forward. It was handled poorly and does not represent anything the two companies have seemingly stood for morally and professionally for dozens of years.

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  43. Hi everyone,

    My experience of flight 132 is similar to what has already been described by other passengers.

    Now that some time has passed, I still can somehow remember about the delay, the fear of not making it on time for Christmas, the gratitude to Steve Jobs for my phone – which helped me change my train reservation from a bus in Virginia, the deprivation of sleep, and of course the incompetence and the lies…

    I am sure these memories will fade over time. However, what will not go away is the feeling of having no control over what is going on - in other words, of being treated like cattle.

    I must say this is not the first time I experience this feeling while traveling by air. Quite the opposite, traveling by air is probably the best way that I know of – except for prison of course, but I have never had that pleasure.

    Each step of the boarding process slowly takes away a bit of our dignity. This is probably why it takes forever to get on a plane – as they need to give our minds some time to adjust:

    1/ Check your luggage, and pray for it to get there. 2/ Go through security, and be thankful you don’t have to be exposed naked with your dirty laundry – I mean yet. 3/ Wait at the boarding gate. Yes, please keep waiting. You may actually get on a plane at some point. 4/ Board. You are almost there! However, sometimes you will fall asleep and wake up, at the exact same place…

    I have got so used to it, that I now always prepare for the worst when I travel: if I can, I pay extra to avoid connecting flights, I include large buffers in my schedule, I pack an ultralight carry-on that still must include some food, a fresh set of clothes and a toothbrush… and of course lots of reading materials – thank you e-readers!

    More importantly, I now have a particular mindset that I can switch to: I get ready for anything to happen – even having to cancel or reschedule my trip. And I become immune to bullshit.

    On a more positive note, I also become more open and available to connect with fellow passengers, as it is always easier to go through hell with a friend.

    Thank to that, I was able to go through the whole flight 132 experience relatively ok. Frankly, it would have been “flying as usual” for me, until they actually crossed the line… In my mind, they did so the next morning, when they announced that they were unable to locate the crew (I mean, seriously?!). It’s all relative, right? I sympathize with those of us who had children, or were pregnant, or sick… As a matter of fact, I must say I admire them, as I don’t recall anybody loosing it.

    (end of part 1)

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  44. (part 2)

    Hi again,

    I was initially planning on keeping this for myself, but the last developments in our saga require that I share with you the experience I had flying back to Dulles.

    As usual, I got to the airport early in the afternoon, for a flight supposed to leave at 5pm. The flight was announced on time. I was only mildly paying attention to what was going on at a gate nearby: the morning flight to Newark had not started boarding yet…

    Then they announced we would be delayed as well. Just for half an hour, no big deal… I can’t even remember what reason was given to us. What difference does it make anyway? I had a great book to read. We in fact left at 8pm, with on board a bunch of people from the Newark flight, which had been cancelled shortly before we started boarding…

    In this absurd but not uncommon reality, something new and unexpected happened: even before we took off, it was announced that because of the extra passengers and their luggage, we had to stop and refuel somewhere in Canada. Therefore we would have another two hours delay on our scheduled arrival time.

    Well, ok… That meant I would get in Dulles at about 1am, drive home for 1.5 hours without killing myself, and get some sleep before I could go back to work the next morning. Of course, any other passenger with a connection flight was to spend the night in Virginia. The guys going to Newark were feeling miserable.

    Then, as we were still on the ground, it was announced that it made more sense for us to refuel in Newark after all, so we could deplane some of the passengers there. Also, we were told that, by law, all of us had to deplane, go through immigration, get our luggage and then check in again to continue on our way to Dulles. I could not believe this… but it was too late, I was on the plane, I had surrendered control.

    We took off in a weird atmosphere. The passengers to Newark were cheering; the rest of us felt we just got hijacked. We were not out of (good) surprises yet: while in the air, a new announcement was made. Because of bad weather over Newark, we would refuel in Boston after all, where for some reason nobody had to leave the plane... Thank God for bad weather!

    I was finally able to get home, enriched by a new kind of flying experience. Thank you so much United / Continental!

    Most of all, thank you to this group and our leaders. Thank you for taking on this fight for dignity.

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  45. In reference to United flight 132 from Dulles to Charles DeGaulle in Paris. We arrived at gate D15 to find the flight delayed from 10:00pm to 11:30pm. Gate personnel initially had no idea why the flight was delayed. We eventually heard several reasons, the most serious being that the plane needed to be repaired but was waiting for a part that would arrive early in the morning. Others reasons given include a delayed pilot and communications problems between United and Continental airlines.

    When it was determined that the plane would be further delayed and eventually not depart until the following morning, passengers were given meal vouchers and put up in a hotel overnight. At this time it was past midnight and we realized that it would take many hours for all of the passengers to be shuttled to the hotel and then checked in, without any luggage or clothes. This meant that we would get very little sleep and have to get up very early to catch the 9:15am flight. This was confirmed by passengers the next morning.

    As a result, we decide to stay and sleep in the terminal. No vouchers for food were allowed if you did not go to the hotel that night.. Not that it would have mattered because most of the restaurants were either closed or would not accept the vouchers, so we paid for our own meals.

    The next morning, the flight was again delayed as some of the crew were erroneously told the flight would not leave until 11:00am. Another delay occurred when 2 passengers were “unaccounted for” due to problems between United’s and Continental’s computer systems, so we could not leave until this was corrected. We finally left about 14 hours after the originally scheduled departure time.

    After being told the schedules of our captain and crew members, we had safety issues and concerns about whether they had enough rest to properly complete a trans-Atlantic flight.

    We arrived in Paris too late for mass transit so had to take a taxi for 60 euro to our hotel. My daughter made 3 trips to the airport to try and pick us up as there was a lack of correct information about our arrival time. Between the extra meals and transportation costs, we spent between $100 and $200 dollars.

    This was also probably the only time we will ever get to Europe and lost one day of our vacation, wasted vacation time from our employment, stress and worry, as well as precious time with our daughter whom we had not seen in 3 months.

    Everyone who travels experiences some sort of delays or other problems, but the excessive amount of excuses, lack of concern for customers, misinformation and general mismanagement are hard to overlook.

    We are therefore asking for adequate compensation from the airline.

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  46. My journey began in San Francisco, December 21st. The plane from SF to Dulles was the only one of the four United/Continental planes I flew in to this date that left and arrived on time...
    Anyway.

    The complete summary and time schedule have already been written elsewhere - and I completely agree with these versions. I will just sum up my experience.
    I arrived at Dulles airport at 8:30 PM, to see that the flight to Paris had been delayed for a departure at 11:30. I then learnt, from fellow passengers, that the plane had a problem and had to be repaired. From what I gathered, once it was fixed, the flight captain was missing. Then a piece had to be brought in for the early reparation was not enough. I had to spend the night at Lansdowne hotel. I got my room key at around 2:30 AM, I had my breakfast at 6:00 AM, I arrived at the airport at around 7:00 AM and at the D15 gate at around 7:30 AM. In the meantime, flight had been delayed for another half hour. Then, the icing on the cake, we got the captain but the crew was misinformed and due to arrive at 11:00 AM.
    All in all, we finally took off, but with a 14-hour delay (at least).
    Once in Paris, even though we were promised a voucher for the cab home by the Dulles staff, I was to pay the taxi and be reimbursed afterwards.

    I didn't know what to expect from Continental/United, and I must say I am very discontented. We didn't get much info about what was going on (nor did the staff at Dulles apparently), it was always somebody else's fault (at dulles newark was to blame, at paris dulles was to blame...).
    I must say I do not trust this airline.
    I hope you will help all of us to change our opinion.

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